Aww come on...don*t go picking on us poor copywriters. We*re not all horrid beasts you know smile

Andromeda said

Methinks it is in the humor department Valinald is lacking. At least if you judge by his comments to this articleSony and Ericsson get together
apparently he didn*t see the funny in that either. Since this was Valinalds only (?)visit, he might just have been having a really bad day...

Andromeda - that is not like you. Calm down, you are making me worried.



And Toste, I think you guessed Valinalds job spot on.



Now, everyone, chill and make friends. grin

> charming.. a whole site full of "designers" in spite...



adgrunts.



> Why not produce something better than constantly >arguing over how crap

others work is? How about >letting the public choose for themselves? Who

fed >you self-proclaimed ad-jury with fertilizers from the >70*s for you

to grow so intolerant?



This is a site that runs on the submissions of the visitors as explained

on a few pages around here. In other words, you are the person who

provides the content. Yes Dabitch posts a lot, but she started it after

all , so we still have some time to catch up. So, you could march in here

and add



>the creative comments on good ads? or

>even comments on HOW VALINALD WOULD HAVE >DONE SOMETHING BETTER?



But alas, instead of choosing to perk the site up with what you find more

relevant than constantly bitching on how bad others work is (I suppose you

are referring to the BADLAND dupliclaims section - in which case you have

misunderstood that section - or perhaps you are in it and pissed because

of that.) - you choose to start a rant about "wanna-be-marketing-freaks"

right here - we we could addressed other things.



Do you even work in advertising? You call dabitch a "marketing-freak" and

"designer" in the same breath. You must be a copywriter! Probably the kind

that sits in the basement of a hip agency, responsible for the copy in

small the booklets of glamorous sport clients, which will only be seen in

Romania (translated of course), making it useless for your portfolio. That

is the real back burner kid. Looser at a cool office. Hah.





> Dabitch.. do you actually have a job as designer?



have you noticed that her site is linked to this one? You could view her

work there. At least she has the guts to say who she is. Kudos to that.



Do feel free to post something more interesting next time. Opinions and

personalities are welcome here actually. Perhaps you could submit some

interesting news/gossip about some GOOD ADS that we all can read. Thanks.

Valinald, you are an idiot. A moron.Get off this site and let us never see you again.

Thanks to DB, pals of mine in Romania got fresh hey whipple books mailed to them. Suprise T-shirts and signed drool books for any admans coffeetable have been mailed out, by her, for free, for no other reason than, hey, it*s a fun site, and hey, we like advertising.

Books signed by the likes of Erik Kessels , Luke Sullivan, Jim Aitchison. Check the competition headlines/topic to see what I mean.This place is *not* arguing about how crap other work is! Badland (seperated at birth) is *FUNNY*. Try getting your self a sense of humour!!

When did your favorite very expensive trademagazine do that last?(ie send books anywhere on the planet in any given competition)?

You walk in, belive what you want, (blind aren*t we?) rant and leave. Please don*t come back. -|

*taps microphone* Never mind. I was just testing.

[ This message was edited by dabitch on 2001-12-21 2133 ]

No, actually, I have a job as an Art Director.

But why should I build - yet another - \"comments on good ads\" place? We already have an abundance of them! (filling a gap in the market 101 would tell you that doing what others have done before you may be fruitless..)

The tradepress asks the famous adgrunts to do this once a week at least in each advertising country.

Why not build a place where the infamous and unfamous adgrunts words count too? Why not discuss the bad as well as the good? What are you trying to hide? ;) Did I say something mean about one of your ads? Hence the "designers in spite" thing?

In the news section, (the front page) good ads *are* shown, when creative teams bother to send out/submit them. Funny stuff not mentioned in the tradepress, interesting ideas. Silly Tee*s.

Submit some of your work to see what other people might comment about it - comments from *all* who visit the site are encouraged on each article published - so the possibilities are there. People just seem to like spewing sarky coomments much better. Go figure. *shrug*

Chill Valinald. Here, take a Lithium™ with this refreshing Amstel Light. There, all better now?



Just as one cannot built a better future without first understanding history (including the blunders), such is advertising. If the mistakes and the bad approaches aren*t brought to light, they propagate. They continue. They become the norm.



One cannot celebrate and create the good without knowing the bad - it offers a sense of scale from which to measure. The ad world is subjective, and yes, the good is featured quite often here. It appears that you*ve simply been too ornery to notice.



As for leaving comments on how we would have done something better... if we*d do that, then certain folks (I*m not pointing fingers) would steal those notions and claim them as their own. This is the home of the adgrunts, not the adhacks, so razz

charming.. a whole site full of \"designers\" in spite...



Why not produce something better than constantly arguing over how crap others work is? How about letting the public choose for themselves? Who fed you self-proclaimed ad-jury with fertilizers from the 70*s for you to grow so intolerant?



Where are the creative comments on good ads? or even comments on HOW YOU WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING BETTER?



Dabitch.. do you actually have a job as designer?