>>He his dense. A personal attack, thanks. >>>>And the defense made for this has fallen short. There is never a reason to use this imagery in an ad. >> >>It has not, you haven*t even understood the defense yet, as you demonstrate below >> >>>>It wasn*t for your benefit, Blabla had incorrectly stated the events of the Crucifixion. >> >>Blabla stated >> >> I don*t agree that it is creatively unnecessary at all, if it*s common people >>have Jesus hanging from the mirror in their car why not use that to >>illustrate the cars speed? Tell me why not - after all, it is the believers >>themselves who hung Jesus there in the first place. >> >>In others words he is talking about the habit of hanging Jesus from the rear view mirror which is common in the land where this ad ran. NOT about who hung Jesus on a cross some twothousand years ago. Maybe I read it wrong and reacted too quickly, but if you were hanging a rosary from your rear view, you are doing so for religious reasons (safe driving, etc.), to mock the very consumer audience you hope to bring in would be like trying to sell Coke, by having it replace wine during a mass. It is terminally insulting. Bennetton has suffered in the US because of the same thinking (depicting a "priest" and "nun" kissing). There is never a reason to utilize such images unless you are a hack. >>>>As for off-discussion, I apologize, but I can ASSURE you it is not hearsay and witnessed it with my own eyes, >>>>and not from the safety of a TV. >> >>Coming from someone who can*t read a sentance in English and understand it, I have no doubt that you can have misjudged what you witnessed as well. Let me return the favor, coming from someone who can*t spell "sentence" I*ll just say that seeing Muslim store keeps running in the streets thanking "allah" and handing out candy to children 5 miles from the WTC, as they fell, was certainly misunderstood by me and many other New Yorkers. >>>>So if someone disagrees with the your point of view they are slandered to the point of being referred to as a troll? >> >>The practice of misconstruing peoples arguments, the misdirection you have displayed is fairly Troll like. Look it up in some Wikipedia and you*ll realise your posts exibit the classic behaviour, that is what she is asking "are you dense (for not understanding english) or just a troll (Purposly not understanding in order to create controversy/flamepit)?". >>evil >>I vote he is a Troll and ask Dab, Robblink, Claymore whomever comes around first to do us all a favour and ban this guy. Feel free to silence me, but my objection to the popular view here does not make me a troll nor dense. The ad is in poor taste at best, from a creative*s standpoint, it is utter hackdom. CP