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Devils advocating? So that's what you were doing. Gee for a while there I thought you meant that any Badlander had the "assumption of plagiarism" and that this "is dangerous, not to mention a bit cheesy and easy" and you were demanding that I talk to the creative teams of each badlander I've posted - all 156 of them - although I already have in quite a few cases and not every badlander has the assumption that people plagiarise on purpose. But you knew that, right? Because you've read all the badlander posts I've made, and understood all my snarks, in-jokes and times when I've stated plainly "it's just a coincidence". Right. Ok, just checking.
Other peoples Badlanders don't get your devils advocating so for a moment there I figured you had something against mine alone, or even just me since you strayed off the subject of the badland pair and onto suggesting I stop posting them. Perhaps it had something to do with that dinosaur doo-doo story last year in the globe and mail that Claymore posted where you knew a lot more about the case than the Globe and Mail, so much one would think that you worked on the campaign. Perhaps not. Heck, sometimes you even make your own they might be plagiarising comments. Am I to conclude that it's ok when everyone else, including you, do it then? As long as I don't? OK. Just so we're clear.
As for this badland pair, yes indeed it does look like the execution of the Coke Spot has borrowed quite a lot from Joel Veitch's by now world-famous style, and music to boot even though that's just a simple ska-beat. Here's where it gets interesting, IMHO YMMV, the execution is actually copyrightable. Photos are too. Illustrations and music are as well. But Ideas aren't. We work in a business where the ideas are the core commodity, this is what we sell, plus the craft and skills of executing it properly. I'm fascinated by the way that ideas do travel, and work on their own agenda appearing in two peoples heads at the same time.
And I'm kinda pissed that what we rely on to be the better creative team, the better agency, the cooler brand is the only thing we can't legally protect. You can not patent or copyright ideas. Advertising is an entire business built on the trading of a commody that anyone can steal! First one who makes it to the award show wins! :) This is interesting.
Some pairings are so easy, where the idea is to shape the juice-package like an orange for example that it's clear two teams could reach that just by thinking for ten minutes. Others are more interesting, where the same visual is conveying two different ideas, or where two TV commercial scripts in two different languages are almost identical. In such media rich times can we really do anything original, because aren't we always giving a nod to someting before it? This is fun to talk about, because coincidences happen, and sometimes they don't. In my humble opinion, your milage may vary.
And I'll leave the irony out, where the b3ta community get upset that their stuff is nicked, while probably 100% of their stuff is actually infringing other peoples work, using copyrighted photos and all that. They're aware of it, I'm sure.
Hehe, okidoki MakeTheLogoBigger is nominated.
You'll never go up against adrants though, his blog falls under commercial (as in "making money") because those who do it as work shouldn't be competing against those who do it while procrastinating at work. ;)
I honestly don't know which category makethelogobigger fits best in. But we'll figure it out. :)
Yaknow, we did discuss that last year - since there are Planners blogs that talk about planning and some copywriters blogs that concentrate on copywriting. There are art directors blogs and designers blogs that talk about general ad news, which shouldn't compete against art directors blogs that talk about art direction specifically.
See what I mean? We group after topic rather than the blog-writers work title. Though often they go together there are enough times that they don't. So AD's and Designers blogs that yap about AD/Desgner stuff go in design discussions, type stuff or ad porn, depending.
I know, you were just yanking my chain as you too are an Art Director, and you have an art directors blog hehehe, just thought I'd reply in the open in case someone else is wondering what our reasoning was behind the various categories. :)
We definatly need to do something else for the non-english blogs as there are many of them that are quite good but some languages have a natural advantage over others being so widely spoken. Dividing up per continent makes sense, that pitches mexican blogs against french Canadians and that could be fun. ;)
Wasn't it Parco P.I. ? ANyway, this has ended up in a norweigan tabloid verdens gang and The Daily Mail and the Sun as well.
Well spotted. At least in that ad they found something else for the one-hand man to do, I mean other than playing pool and putting pants on. There's got to be more one-hand gags than that I thought when I saw the two in the post above - yup, and they are all in that Dr pepper ad. ;)
That's just it! I twas never an actual ad! I'm just saying, when did the crazy outrageous campaigns done by juniors as spec/pitches become so.. I dunno, crap? I don't recall any juniors crucifying some random long haired dude in order to sell nails before - but maybe I didn't pay attention.
I recall quite a few ads done in strange new untested media spaces they might not have been possible to make and other oddities tho. I guess that trend is over.
I like this, just spotted Urban Counterwhatsits in Creativity's email alert:
The cycle of co-opting style and design is traditionally a top-down affair. Big name designers come out with their high-priced fashions and sooner or later there's a knock-off being sold on a street corner somewhere. But recently the tables have turned on a number of independent artists and designers who've had their work "inspire" collections at the hipster department store known as Urban Outfitters. These "coincidences" are documented regularly on the site UrbanCounterfeiters.com where readers can compare the similarities themselves. Hey, at least these independent folks can take solace in the fact they helped Urban Outfitters to a $34.5 million third quarter profit in their own special way.
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